Some say because I am attacking Ford and the union members who put the window in wrong that I am union bashing. I ask, who is to assume responsibility for putting the window in wrong? They all had a part in it and I notice the CAW doesn’t support the consumer in getting fair treatment from Ford, therefore they are in the same boat as management on this issue. I only use Ford as I have personal experience and relate only facts, otherwise they would sue me. I am sure the other Big 2 are as guilty of some kind of transgression over time but, since I have no personal experience, I really can’t say much. I only bring up Toyota as they show a more responsible manner towards the consumer.
If the CAW/UAW want support, instead of begging for government money (tax payers money) you should also be proactive and support the consumer. As a consumer I see executives getting $30million dollar payouts while I pay thousands in unnecessary repairs. Should I support the government bailout of the Big 3 when I see this. I see the UAW/CAW demand large salaries in their negotiations, some of which will now be supported by the government bailout. Do I see them supporting me as a consumer in terms of quality control – quality control on vehicles they make?
Ford bashing – union bashing… No, it is called asking for someone to take responsibility for f**king up.
Below is a letter I wrote to Premier Dalton McGuinty regarding my thoughts on the taxpayer giving the Big 3 out money. As you can see I say we should help out – hey they are our neighbours working but, there should be some accountability. Only a fool gives away money without some kind of promise – and the CAW brass know all about that.
Dear Premier Dalton McGuinty
I noticed in today’s Toronto Star and National Post newspapers that you are going to meet with auto execs and talk about “bailout” packages. Let me first say that I have no problem with the government helping out various sectors during extreme economic times of hardship, such as now.
What I do have a problem with is the lack of consideration and support we get from some of those demanding the money. I have a 2002 Ford F150 and it was built with a leaky front window. During assembly, the window was not properly sealed and, over time, it leaked water. This water, over a period of time, fried certain electronics – fuse box, door electronics, blower, etc. I am not the only one with this problem (see at end of letter). Although the examples are U.S., that is due to the fact the information is accessible to me, unlike the Canadian statistics. As well, it may be that a certain line of trucks was involved, most of which went to the U.S.
Ford was well aware of this problem, but did not inform the owners nor did it do a recall. It did though, fix the various problems that arose at the owner’s own expense. They refuse to acknowledge any blame for this problem which, if not fixed, could end up causing death and/or injury.
As well, the executives continue to rake in large salary and bonuses, while their own companies are considering bankruptcy. Is this an ethical way to do business, especially since they want the government to bail them out? Why? So they can continue to rake in their obscene payouts or, because they are really concerned about the worker? If I had made $30million last year, I guess I wouldn’t be too concerned about losing my job this year would I.
The CAW & UAW also want government money but, they don’t take responsibility for their workers/members putting in the window wrong.
Now, Toyota, they are not only not laying off workers but having those workers doing training, upgrading and completing community projects. What does the big three do? Lay off workers, put them on government pogey and demand that we give them more money in order to keep the remaining jobs. Who is the more responsible auto manufacturer in terms of labour, government and the local community?
I know the Big 3 will get their money and ensure their executives get their big payouts so, all I ask is that Ford, if they want my TAX money, they own up to what they did and see that they do the responsible thing for the taxpayer/consumer who gets ripped off.
Here are a few complaints already on file:
CONSUMER COMPLAINT: ODI Case Number: 10217484
Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
Details: I HAVE A 2002 FORD F-150 SUPERCREW, ABOUT 6 MONTHS AGO MY ELECTRICAL PANEL STARTED HAVING A MIND OF ITS OWN EVERYTIME IT RAINS. MY RADIO, WINDSHIELD WIPERS, BLINKERS, TAIL LIGHTS AND INTERIOR LIGHTS GO OFF AND ON. I HAVE ALMOST BEEN IN SEVERAL ACCIDENTS DUE TO THIS PROBLEM NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE BECAUSE OF WINDSHIELD WIPERS NOT WORKING AND ALSO BECAUSE OF BLINKERS NOT WORKING. THE PROBLEM IS GETTING WORSE AND I BELIEVE FORD SHOULD FIX THIS SINCE IT IS DEFINETLY SEVERAL LARGE SAFETY ISSUES.
Occurrences: 8 Injuries: 0
Fail Date: 02/06/2008 Deaths: 0
Date added to datbase: 2/8/2008
[FILE] your own complaint on this model car.
CONSUMER COMPLAINT: ODI Case Number: 10180915
Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
Details: IN LATE SUMMER OF 2006, MY 2002 FORD F-150 BEGAN EXPERIENCING CHASSIS ELECTRICAL SYSTEM MALFUNCTIONS. EVERY TIME THERE WAS A RAINSTORM. SPECIFICALLY, THE WINDSHIELD WIPERS CEASED TO WORK, THE INTERIOR DOME LIGHT WOULD FLASH ON & OFF, THE BLOWER MOTOR FOR THE HEATER WOULD CONTINUE TO RUN AFTER SHUTTING OFF IGNITION, THE KEYLESS ENTRY SYSTEM WOULD NOT WORK, THE ABS WARNING LIGHT WOULD COME ON. I TOOK THE VEHICLE TO FORD DEALER # 1 WHO, WHEN I DESCRIBED THE SYMPTOMS, STATED IMMEDIATELY THAT THE PROBLEM WAS DUE TO WATER LEAKING PAST THE LOWER WINDSHIELD SEAL AND SHORTING OUT THE GEM MODULE AND THE FUSE BLOCK MOUNTED ON THE INTERIOR FIREWALL. DEALER STATED “THIS IS AN EXPENSIVE REPAIR, YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO THE WORK YOURSELF”. AS I DIDN’T FEEL I HAD THE ABILITY TO REPAIR, I LET IT GO FOR SEVERAL WEEKS. IN LATE NOVEMBER OF 2006, I WAS DRIVING TO WORK BEFORE SUNRISE, IN A VERY HEAVY RAIN, WHEN THE WIPERS SHUT OFF AND THE DOME LIGHT CAME ON MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE. I TOLD MY PARENTS ABOUT THIS & THEY INSTRUCTED ME TO TAKE VEHICLE TO FORD DEALER # 2 FOR REPAIR AT THEIR EXPENSE. DEALER # 2 WAS AWARE OF THE CONDITION AS WELL. THE ESTIMATE FOR REPAIR WAS $553 TO REPAIR THE ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS DAMAGED BY THE MOISTURE, AND THE VEHICLE WOULD THEN HAVE TO BE TAKEN TO A GLASS SHOP TO HAVE THE WINDSHIELD RE-SEALED. THE WORK WAS DECLINED, AND I CONTACTED FORD CUSTOMER SERVICE EXPLAINING THAT AS THIS WAS A SAFETY RELATED ISSUE, KNOWN TO BOTH DEALERSHIPS, I FELT THEY SHOULD ABSORB SOME OF THE EXPENSE OF MAKING VEHICLE DRIVABLE DURING ANY WEATHER CONDITION. REQUEST WAS DENIED. MY CONTENTION IS THAT SINCE DRIVING IN A RAINSTORM WITHOUT WIPERS AND AN ERRATIC ELECTRICAL SYSTEM, AND SINCE BOTH DEALERSHIPS WERE ACQUAINTED WITH THE CONDITION, THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A VOLUNTARY RECALL, OR AT THE VERY LEAST, A TSB ADVISING OWNERS OF THE POTENTIAL PROBLEM. *JB
Occurrences: 10 Injuries: 0
Fail Date: 08/26/2006 Deaths: 0
Date added to datbase: 1/28/2007
[FILE] your own complaint on this model car.
CONSUMER COMPLAINT: ODI Case Number: 10173700
Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
Details: WIPERS AND RADIO WORK ONLY WHEN IN PARK. LIGHTS REMAIN ON EVEN WHEN IN OFF POSITION. VEHICLE WILL SPORADICALLY NOT START. PROBLEM STARTED IN THE FALL OF 05 AND PERSISTED UNTIL SUMMER 06, AT WHICH TIME ALL SYMPTOMS DISAPPEARED. NOW IN THE FALL OF 06, ALL SYMPTOMS HAVE RETURNED. *JB
Occurrences: 25 Injuries: 0
Fail Date: 11/15/2006 Deaths: 0
Date added to datbase: 11/16/2006
[FILE] your own complaint on this model car.
CONSUMER COMPLAINT: ODI Case Number: 10168378
Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:STARTER ASSEMBLY
Details: THE TRUCK WAS DRIVEN BACK FROM THE STORE, A DISTANCE OF A FEW MILES, THEN PARKED IN MY DRIVEWAY. APPRXIMATELY 30 MINUTES LATER I HEAD WHAT SOUNDED LIKE A COMPRESSOR RUNNING OUT IN THE STREET. WENT OUT INTO THE DRIVEWAY AND FOUND THE STARTER WAS TURNING OVER THE ENGINE. THE TRUCK HAD BEEN TURNED OFF WHEN PARKED AND THE KEY WAS REMOVED. WENT BACK INSIDE GOT THE KEY, AND TURNED THE IGNITION SWITCH TO THE “RUN” POSITION. TRUCK STARTED AND RAN. TURNED OFF IGNITION AND REMOVED KEY, BUT THE STARTER CONTINUED TO TURN ENGINE. DID THIS SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE LETTING THE ENGINE RUN FOR APPROXIMATELY 5 MINUTES, THEN FINALLY WAS ABLE TO TURN OFF IGNITION AND STARTER DID NOT CRANK THE ENGINE. NEXT MORNING TRUCK WOULD NOT START. TRUCK WAS TOWED AND HAD TO HAVE STARTER REPLACED BECAUSE IT HAD BURNED OUT. THE TRUCK HAS ONLY 15,000 MILES. CALLED LOCAL FORD SERVICE DEPARTMENT WHERE TRUCK WAS PURCHASED AND THEY SAID THEY WERE UNAWARE OF ANY PROBLEMS WITH STARTERS. OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH STARTER ENGAGING BY ITSELF.
Occurrences: 1 Injuries: 0
Fail Date: 08/20/2006 Deaths: 0
Date added to datbase: 9/15/2006
[FILE] your own complaint on this model car.
CONSUMER COMPLAINT: ODI Case Number: 10147984
Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
Details: DT*: THE CONSUMER STATED THE WINDSHIELD WIPERS AND RADIO WORK INTERMITTENTLY. THE DOME LIGHT REMAINED ILLUMINATED. THE WIPERS AND THE RADIO COME ON FOR A FEW MINUTES AND THEN STOP WORKING. THE WINDSHIELD WIPERS COME ON INTERMITTENTLY WITH THE SWITCH IN THE OFF POSITION. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT TAKEN TO THE DEALER FOR INSPECTION. *JB
Occurrences: 24 Injuries: 0
Fail Date: 01/18/2006 Deaths: 0
Date added to datbase: 1/18/2006
[FILE] your own complaint on this model car.
CONSUMER COMPLAINT: ODI Case Number: 10139510
Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
Details: AFTER RAINING 4X4 INDICATOR LIGHT FLASHES , WINDSHIELD WIPERS AND RADIO SHUT ON AND OFF WHILE DRIVING. *NM
Occurrences: 3 Injuries: 0
Fail Date: 09/11/2005 Deaths: 0
Date added to datbase: 10/12/2005
[FILE] your own complaint on this model car.
CONSUMER COMPLAINT: ODI Case Number: 10126045
Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:IGNITION:MODULE
Details: WATER LEAK FROM THE WINDSHIELD INTO THE DASH BOARD DAMAGING ELECTRONIC COMPONENTS FOR THE AMOUNT OVER $800.00, THE VEHICLE IS A 2002 FORD 150, IT HAD A THE TIME OF THE INCIDENT ONLY 33,000 MILES BUT IT WAS OUT OF WARRANTY FOR ABOUT 5 WEEKS. THEREFORE THEY WOULDN’T FIX IT WITHOUT A CHARGE.
Occurrences: 2 Injuries: 0
Fail Date: 05/15/2005 Deaths: 0
Date added to datbase: 6/21/2005
[FILE] your own complaint on this model car.
CONSUMER COMPLAINT: ODI Case Number: 10108792
Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
Details: ELECTRICAL: AT 306 MILES THE SOLENOIDS HAD TO BE REPLACED. UPON SHUTTING THE VEHICLE OFF; THE DASH BOARD WOULD STILL ILLUMINATE. ALSO, UPON SHUTTING THE VEHICLE OFF IT WOULD CONTINUE TO RUN. THIS HAS HAPPENED A TOTAL OF FOUR TIMES. THE TRANSMISSION COMPLETELY FAILED WITH NO WARNING. THE CONSUMER TOOK THE VEHICLE TO THE DEALER, AND WAS TOLD THE WINDSHIELD HAD A LEAK WHICH CORRODED THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM. THE ELECTRICAL PROBLEMS STARTED AT 44000 MILES. THE GASKET HAD TO BE REPLACED, AND THE HARNESS WIRING HAD TO BE REPLACED ALSO. UPON TRYING TO START THE VEHICLE AGAIN THE BATTERY WOULD BE COMPLETELY DEAD. PLEASE PROVIDE ANY FURTHER INFORMATION. *JB
Occurrences: 4 Injuries: 0
Fail Date: 01/14/2004 Deaths: 0
Date added to datbase: 1/25/2005
[FILE] your own complaint on this model car.
CONSUMER COMPLAINT: ODI Case Number: 10072530
Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
Details: WINDSHIELD SEAL LEAKED (RAIN) ALONG ROOFLINE CAUSING MULTIPLE ELECTRICAL PROBLEMS. VEHICLE HAS MULTIPLE SYSTEM WARNING LIGHTS VISIBLE ON DASH. SHORT CIRCUIT SOUNDS COMING FROM BEHIND DASHBOARD. WARNING LIGHTS, BLOWER MOTOR AND HEAD LIGHTS OPERATE WITHOUT KEY IN THE IGNITION CAUSING BATTERY TO BE DRAINED. WIPERS CUT OFF WITHOUT WARNING. DOOR WINDOWS STOP WORKING WITHOUT WARNING. VEHICLE SHIFTS INTO FOUR-WHEEL DRIVE WITHOUT WARNING. ENGINE RACES WHILE PARKED (REVS TO 4000 RPM AND RETURNS TO NORMAL). SALES MAN INFORMED THAT FORD WILL NOT COVER THE PROBLEM BECAUSE THE TRUCK IS OUT OF WARRANTY AND TO BRING TRUCK TO DEALER (5/3/04). TRUCK WOULD NOT START UNTIL 5/8/04. SEAL TO WINDSHIELD SEPARATED FROM VEHICLE ON LEFT SIDE WHILE DRIVING TO DEALERSHIP (5/10/04). THE TRUCK NOW HAS EXCESSIVE WIND NOISE. TRUCK WILL NO LONGER START (5/11/04). I CALLED FORDS CUSTOMER AND REQUESTED THAT A REPRESENTATIVE FROM FORD INSPECT THE TRUCK. CUSTOMER SERVICE ASKED THAT THE TRUCK BE TOWED TO A FORD DEALER. TRUCK WAS TOWED TO LOCAL DEALER. DEALER DID NOT WANT TO HELP ME CONTACT FORD AFTER I INFORMED THEM THAT THE TRUCK HAS A DEFECTIVE WINDSHIELD SEAL. DEALERSHIP INFORMS ME ON 5/13/04 THAT THE ZONE SUPERVISOR FROM FORD SAID THAT THERE WAS NOTHING THAT COULD BE DONE ABOUT THE PROBLEM. IN ADDITION, DEALER REFUSES TO PUT STATEMENT IN WRITING. THE DEALER ALSO INFORMED ME THAT FOR A FEE, THEY COULD SEAL THE WINDSHIELD AND DIAGNOSIS THE PROBLEM BUT THE DEALERSHIP WHERE THE TRUCK WAS PURCHASED FROM SHOULD DO THE REPAIRS. *AK
Occurrences: 1 Injuries: 0
Fail Date: 05/02/2004 Deaths: 0
Date added to datbase: 5/13/2004
[FILE] your own complaint on this model car.
CONSUMER COMPLAINT: ODI Case Number: 10039939
Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
Details: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM FAILS INTERMITTENTLY, CAUSING HEADLIGHTS AND OTHER ELECTRONIC COMPONENTS TO BLINK. *AK
Occurrences: 1 Injuries: 0
Fail Date: 07/10/2003 Deaths: 0
Date added to datbase: 9/15/2003
[FILE] your own complaint on this model car.